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Best economy-class seats yet?
Posted by: Sean O'Neill, Monday, Nov 5, 2007, 9:40 AM

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Cathay Pacific is adding better seats to its airplanes. On Oct. 18, the airline began offering these seats on its daily flights out of San Francisco. [Update 11/6: A Cathay Pacific spokesperson now says that the San Francisco flights will begin to offer these seats in March 2008.] On Nov. 16, it will add the seats to its flights out of New York City to Hong Kong. Last week, I got my first look at 'em.

In economy-class, the most important new feature is that the seats no longer recline backward at an angle. Instead, the seats have cushions that slide down and recline into the shell of the seat. This is good news if you're someone who hates it when the passenger in front of you reclines his or her seatback into your space.

But the legroom (called "seat pitch") remains the same: 32 inches. Tall passengers may find that Cathay Pacific's seat cushions now slightly move one's legs forward. However, airline spokespeople say this shouldn't be a problem. The seat frame and structure has been designed to max out knee and shin clearance by stripping out the awkward fixtures and fittings that jam up against the kneecaps on many airline seats.

Another change: The pocket (or netting) that's used for storing magazines and other items has been moved by designers from underneath the tray table to underneath your seat, lessening the chance that your legs will touch it.

Here are some other perks of the economy-class seats:

Each seat comes with an eyeglass holder, which is a real boon if you wear specs and have had to store them while sleeping mid-flight. Each seat also comes with a 110-volt standard electric socket. As a standard feature, a coat-hook is also offered. Most important for some travelers, the seatback TV screen is nine-inches, somewhat larger than Cathay Pacific's previous standard for economy class.

Each seat also has a three-point belt, which means that it will be much more obvious to flight attendants passing through the aisles whether your seat buckle is fastened. Today, the industry standard is, of course, the two-point belt. If you toss a blanket over top of your two-point belt while you're sleeping, you hide it from the flight attendant, who may have to disturb you to check to see that it is belt buckled during the flight.

Not all Cathay Pacific flights have these seats, but they are being rolled out to all flights to-and-from the U.S. by May 2008.

THE REAL DEAL This year, Cathay Pacific upgraded its famous All Asia Pass, enabling you to visit roughly two-dozen cities in 21 days. The pass includes travel to 23 cities in Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, and Vietnam. It costs $1,599. If you sign up for the airline's e-newsletter, you can qualify for a $200 discount for departures on certain days of the week. Additional airport taxes and fees are roughly $54 for the U.S. as well as from $20 to $80 for each foreign destination. The pass must be booked through a travel agent, who will likely charge a fee.

EARLIER: Worst new idea in seating? Face-to-face seatbacks.

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Reader Comments

When we have to be at the airport in the wee hours of the morning we stay at a hotel adjacent to the airport the night before. All of these hotels have a bkfst included with the room, yet none of them offer anything before 6:30-7:00. That doesn't help those of us with a 6:ooAM flight who have to be at the airport by 4:30.Can any pressure or incentive be put on them to offer coffee to go, a muffin/fruit? Nor only are we paying for it, but having to spend a few hrs. getting ready, standing in lines etc...it would be nice to have something in our stomachs, even if it is only a cup of coffee

Posted By Fran Mazzara on November 8, 2007, 1:08 PM

These seats have the added advantage that they can "recline" without tipping the seatback rearward, and thus can be used adjacent to emergency exits and in rows that back up to a wall at the rear of the cabin. US airlines generally prevent such seats from reclining. Ouch! Having recently spent 3-plus hours in a non-reclining seat on a domestic flight, I welcome any promise of relief.

Posted By Neal J. on November 8, 2007, 3:36 PM

Well, I have never been on the new seats before so I do not know of what to expect, but after reading this information, I have a feeling that it might be a little better. Is it ok if I have a request? Well, I am thinking that can you put rows of threes and twos on the window sides? For one people traveling in fives could just have a row of three and two. Also if people are traveling in twos or threes they could sit in the middle rows of fours or on the sides.'_'

Posted By Ami on November 1, 2008, 10:39 PM

These seats are the absolute worst I've ever sat in from Hong Kong to Amsterdam. It was a terrible journey leaving me walking around talking to other passengers etc. I'm not using CX anymore because of these horrible seats. They are a huge strain on your lower back and buttox. After a couple of hours, they will go numb.

Posted By marvin on July 17, 2009, 12:57 PM

I agree with Marvin. I just got back from a 12+ hour leg from HK to San Francisco, and was just getting ready to draft a letter to CX relaying my flight experience. It amazes me to think that CX thought these were comfortable options when they really feel like stiff styrofoam boards. I would refuse to even book a 2-hour flight if I knew these would be the economy seats... and they rolled it out initially for long-haul international trips? I too will opt for other airline options next time.

Posted By faith on April 14, 2010, 11:23 PM

Im going to Cathay Pacific Boeing 777-300ER JFK-HKG 8/15! Cant wait economy class. I would love to check out these seats. Must be awsome!

Posted By Jacky on July 31, 2010, 7:58 PM

Wow, das ist so interessant! Ich kann nicht für den nächsten Artikel warten. Achten Sie darauf!

Posted By odszkodowania on March 6, 2012, 11:01 AM

Wow, das ist so interessant! Ich kann nicht für den nächsten Artikel warten. Achten Sie darauf!

Posted By kancelaria prawnicza on March 6, 2012, 1:08 PM

Es ist fantastisch! Ich frage mich, ob ich ein paar Dinge schreiben wollte, würde ich, wie man weiß.

Posted By wypadek w pracy on March 7, 2012, 9:02 AM

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